Saturday, August 21, 2010

Fox hunting should be allowed?

The people out in the scrubs are losing their livelihoods because of this. It is also a big part of the British Culture, (imagine if this was a Muslim culture - I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be banned). Foxes are pests and eat Farmers livestock. Plus, I also think their fur is nice and looks great as a scalf. We eat animals to survive, well we also need them to keep us warm.





Discuss.Fox hunting should be allowed?
No. Its an out-dated pass-time for inbred retards.Fox hunting should be allowed?
If you want to eradicate foxes, do so by humane methods not by chasing them until they are frightened witless and then having dogs tear them to shreds and then having the audacity to call it sport.





Bearbating and cockfighting were 'English traditions' until they too were rightly made illegal.





The majority of people want this cruelty stopped so live with it and move on.
Foxes eat varmints like rats. Rats spread disease. Too many rats are bad. You need foxes to keep the rat population down.





People shouldn't hunt foxes unless they have become a real nuisance like going after chickens, and kill only those one that have been doing so.





Rats are worst pest and they eat grain and foodstuff and contaminate them with their droppings. You need foxes to keep this from becoming rampant.





These articles may help shed some light on how foxes keep down rat population:





Eagles, Foxes Trained to Catch Destructive Rats


http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=62鈥?/a>





We are to blame for the rising rat population


http://archive.thisischeshire.co.uk/2001鈥?/a>
Foxes have to hunt, who else is going to feed them?


Anyway, even if it was not allowed, the foxes would ignore it.





People, on the other hand do not have to hunt foxes, but some people like to do it.





If the capture and disposal of the fox was more humane, would there be any objection to this activity continuing, or is it something to do with the class divide, and ';rich person's sport';, which makes it a political issue?
I undestand that in the south and northeast foxes were hunted by dogs. Mostly in the south it was at night and it was mainly to hear the dogs run and not the killing of the fox. In the northeast they were no or rarely ever caught by the dogs but were shot by a hunter on a stand. I have had a fox run slightly ahead of my car where he could have left the road thet seem to enjoy it.
You are writing a load of rubbish.
I'd rather go CHAV hunting.
Well, mrcontroversy, no I won't discuss this. If you want to be controversial, you'll have to try a damn site harder than the fox hunting debate, which is standard fayre in secondary schools.
First of all, you really cannot equate something which you consider British culture with something which is religious culture. I know of no legitimate Muslim activity which is cruel or involves slaying and is protected as such. Please make sense in how you use an argument otherwise you sound like an ignorant racist. Second of all, the humane culling of foxes as pests is not banned, dressing up like a bunch of lawless toffs who invade whatever land they like to tear a poor creature limb from limb using a pack of dogs is, and so it should be. People who have lost income as a result of the ban need to diversify their efforts to find work, people in Cities have to do this all the time.
I wish they would bring it back,I`ve been called to deal with more foxes this year than any other,';I shoot them with a .22 250 they are dead before they hear the shot'; the number of times the farmers have said,'; i`ve had a go with my shot gun but the buggers run of';. these foxes when shot are lame from ifected wounds caused by the shot and are dying slowley. with hunting the farmer perceives something is being done about them and therefore leaves it to the hunt. if a fox gets away from the hunt it is unharmed and on it`s way, if it gets coaght it dies instantly no suffering for days full of shot.


So think about the fox, restore hunting and stop suffering.


J7 we train terriers to clear the rats and use poison, both of which we are in control of a fox is wild and kills indiscriminatelyanything from a small mammal to birds,(nesting) to lambs.





bumlbo hellal meat were muslims cut the throwts of live animals to kill them sloley to drain there blood is cruel and protected by your religon.





Chris n thanks for the advice but we are doing our best against a government after the populist voters.


Beastie your right hunting with hounds does little to reduce the overall population of the British fox,but it does move them on from were they are causing a problem and if a certain section of our society deem fit to make a multi million pound industry out of it to create jobs and wealth for others why ban it.It`s like banning football because of all the trouble and deaths that occur,that won`t happen because the government rake in millions in taxes soon all our traditions and country side will be gone not through hunting but through devlopment. and you will be able to live in a clean concrete world full of druggies and murderers, but jno fox hunting. there are mor e important issues out there for people to get upset about but until it directly affects them they have to gripe about everybody else.
R U A TOFF? I WORK FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU. LETS SET A PACK OF BLOOD HUNGRY DOGS ON YOU AND SEE HOW YOU LIKE IT. BUT YES VERMIN NEED TO BE CONTROLLED, SHOOTING IS A LOT MORE HUMANE.





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I ALSO AGREE WITH '****** AND LOADED' COMMENT, CHAVS NEED CONTROLLING TOO ';RELEASE THE DOGS!';
People out in the 'scrubs' can evolve or die out same as everyone else.


Hunting with horses and hounds is completely inefficient in terms of curbing fox populations. A .237 rifle and a spotlight is far more efficient and offers considerably less terror to the animal than being chased by a pack of hounds and horses ridden by bloodthirsty barbarians. Yes, sometimes the animal gets wounded and limps off to die. That's hardly a big deal. Any animal injured mortally in an accident will do the same.





Sure their fur is nice, but it looks a lot better on a fox than round some fat gits neck.





In this day and age, given how many synthetic fibres there are, we no longer need animal skins to keep us warm. That is an outdated argument unless you're a native of the high Arctic.





Nice try on being controversial, but I'm not biting on the 'Muslim' hook, thanks. Stick to one argument at a time, mate.





Oh, and for those who'd say 'that's a typical townie attitude,' I was born and raised in the countryside and my attitude to animals is not exactly soft and cuddly. Foxes are vermin, but fox hunting is nothing more than the barbaric chasing the scavenger.
the animals we eat are not torn to shreads by a pack of dogs first.
Well here in the states certain laws describe hunting on fox. Here in Maine you cannot hunt fox but you can trap them during the trapping season. But I hear you. They are a pest and should be allowed to be hunted and trapped. But if you are going to use them as clothing make sure you process the pelt correctly to avoid a flea infested fur coat.





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Boy didn't you open up a can of worms with this question. LoL. Scroll down.
I just read an article on the mysterious decline of hedgehogs in Britain,the biologists cant figure why its happening,how could they be so stupid,I know why its happening and I live 2000 miles from Britain,its the foxes,without hunting there has been a upswing in the fox population.You guys that hunt over there have to get together and get a handle on your regulations.I have heard and read that its pretty tough for the average guy to hunt there,you guys need to change that soon or you wont be hunting anything.Dont give the Antis any room to dictate huntings future in Britain,you can see what they have already done to you
yes i think killing foxes is ok but only if it is hurting youre lively hood but i dont like it when ppl do it for sport with no need of them after they kill it
Bill Bailey puts it best for me:


';Fox hunting is natural. Even foxes hunt....... Yeah, but they're not mounted on the back of pigs are they? Chasing a terrified doormouse with a slavering pack of shrews';





People say


';you can't ban foxhunting, think of the unemployment.... OF WHAT?? 40,000 beagals kicking their heels.... you wanna get them back down the lab... back on the fags..... no hang on.... haven't really thought that one through';





If they have to be culled then shoot them, it's quick and clean. Being torn to pieces by a dog isn't. I don't eat animals to survive and like most of the rest of the human race I've cottoned on to the fact that there are much more effective fabrics out there for keeping me warm. So for me this is not controversial in the slightest.
Yeah - I so agree with all the points you made. If fox hunting was a religious festival, no-one would bat an eye. It is tradition and the ban means loss of hundreds of jobs and the slaughter of many animals.
Go and eat a fox D*CKHEAD then come back you f*cking moron !!!!
No Sallieannie38, our food comes from the freezer doens't it?





We don't 'humanely' electric shock and then cut the throats to bleed pigs, sheep and cattle for food. We don't send poultry through auto plucking / dressing machines to make them oven ready do we?





Whatever way you look at it, there are issues with the way any of our food is produced, especailly when using meat.





As for Fox hunting, it should never have been banned. It is an Enlish tradition to hunt foxes with hounds. As far as I know, hunts rarely caught the fox, but with control of foxes now being managed by shooting them, there will likely be fewer foxes than before. So well done the do gooders, mess with things you know nothing about and have it bite you in the a***.





PS - Foxes kill for the sake of killing. If a fox gets into a chicken run holding 100 chickens, it will kill every one of them, if only to eat one itself!!
There are no excuses for killing innocent animals and very few for killing the so called pests. We humans elevate ourselves so much above our fellow animals although the right thing would be for us to coexist - and that means to give and take.





When animals inconvenience us by eating a few chickens or vegetables, sure a death sentence is too harsh a punishment. Should we hang every Tom who bumps into our car, every Dick who plays music too loudly in the neighborhood and every Harry who picks our pocket?





British culture it may be, but it is about time time Britain got rid of those old fashioned traditions and moved into the 21st century. It is hypocricy to donate funds for the preservation of animals in African national parks (which deprive the indegenous people of traditional hunting grounds and source of much needed protein) while you kill the few animals you have for sport!





As for the far, I think an ethical 21st century human has enough materials, both natural and artificial, to leave fur to the animals. We are not in the stone-age when man had no cotton or artificial fibres and had to depend on animal skins for warmth.
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